Muslims around the world condemn Paris attacks

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Muslim leaders the world over are condemning the horrific terror attacks that struck Paris Friday night, expressing outrage and shock at an onslaught of shootings and bombings that left at least 120 dead and hundreds wounded.

The outpouring of support for the victims and and disgust for the attacks began even before ISIS, the militant terrorist group current terrorizing entire sections of Iraq and Syria, claimed responsibility for the carnage. Muslim imams, scholars, commentators, and average Muslims expressed grief and horror using social media. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, an Islamic movement founded in British India in the 19th century, released a statement rebuking the “barbaric attacks.”

In Ireland, the Imam of the Al-Mustafa Islamic Centre and Chair of the Irish Muslim Peace & Integration Council, offered prayers for the victims and dismissed terrorist’s claims to Islam.

“My thoughts and prayers are with the people of Paris and every other place on earth plagued by sick men with weapons and bombs,” Imam Umar Al-Qadri said. “Terrorists have no religion whatsoever. Their religion is intolerance, hatred for Peace.”
Shuja Shafi, secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, repeated Al-Qadri’s rejection of ISIS.

“This attack is being claimed by the group calling themselves ‘Islamic State’,” he said. “There is nothing Islamic about such people and their actions are evil, and outside the boundaries set by our faith.”

The Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University, the thousand-year-old, highly influential center for Sunni Muslim scholarship, called the attacks “odious” and called on the world to “unite to face this monster,” according to French magazine Jeunea Frique.

There is nothing Islamic about such people and their actions are evil, and outside the boundaries set by our faith.

Leaders of several Muslim-majority nations also spoke out. Iranian president Hassan Rouhani called the attacks a “crime against humanity,” Qatari foreign minister Khaled al-Attiyah described them as “heinous,” and Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister declared they were “in violation and contravention of all ethics, morals and religions.” Saudi Arabia’s highest religious body also spoke out, saying “terrorists are not sanctioned by Islam and these acts are contrary to values of mercy it brought to the world.”

Joko Widodo, president of Indonesia — the largest Muslim nation population-wise — said “Indonesia condemns the violence that took place in Paris.”

In the United States, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Muslim social justice group, quickly issued a press release rejecting terrorism — something they do regularly in response to such incidents. Their statement also made mention of a bombing in Beirut, Lebanon on Thursday that wounded 200 and killed 45. Three residents of Dearborn, Michigan lost their lives in that attack attack, which ISIS also claimed responsibility for.

“These savage and despicable attacks on civilians, whether they occur in Paris, Beirut or any other city, are outrageous and without justification,” CAIR’s statement read. “We condemn these horrific crimes in the strongest terms possible. Our thoughts and prayers are with the loved ones of those killed and injured and with all of France. The perpetrators of these heinous attacks must be apprehended and brought to justice.”

Pope Francis appeared to echo their rejection of ISIS’s religious claims in a phone interview with the Italian Bishops’ Conference television network on Friday. Explaining that he sees the violence as part of a “piecemeal Third World War,” he said “there is no religious or human justification” for the attacks

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80 thoughts on “Muslims around the world condemn Paris attacks

  1. It’s a rhetorical question Bryan, but how far will you personally go to tell people that Islam isn’t a threat to anyone?
    It’s like getting Dom to take public responsibility for his religion and tell the whole world which bits of the Holy Bible Gospel didn’t happen according to him! It will never happen will it? There’s no chance of an honest open discussion.

    Jesus doesn’t deserve divided loyalties. [note to self]

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    • Note to you; When you stop stereotyping people you will get closer to the truth.

      You expect Dom to take responsibility for terrorists?
      Well, will you take responsibility for the so=called Christian westboro church’s madness?

      Or what about Joseph Kony? He claimed to be Christian too. Will you take responsibility for his actions?

      It’s a legitimate question. I wonder whether you’ll bother to answer it. That would be an open discussion.

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      • No I expect in any “honest” discussion for Dom to take responsibility for his personal allahology. So I don’t expect an honest discussion with him; as a pragmatist I don’t expect it can happen.

        Yes, I think all Islam is the doctrine of demons. regardless of wherther people practice militant Jihad or pacifist Islam.

        I can no more speak for Joseph Kony than I can Richard the Lionheart or Joseph Smith or Oliver Cromwell. Let the dead bury the dead. Pope Urban the II, defender of the Holy Roman Empire seems to have had some thoughts on a military defense of Christendom. This is the latest page in 1300 years of Islamic history is it not?

        I am happy to compare a Bible to a Koran though. I said before I’d live next to a gay bath house in preference to Mosque. I don’t expect blasphemies in a Gay Bath house. Abasement but not blasphemy

        Meanwhile to everyone’s relief a musician played John Lennon’s Imagine at the Bataclan Concert Hall. Question, if he had been playing it the night before with all his sincerity and heart felt good will would he have prevented the deaths? Is niceness what will win over the Qur’anic purist? Do you expect to fund a Church in Saudi Arabia?

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      • Strewth, just extrapolate from your own home. Jesus said if the house owner knew what time the thief was coming he would wait up for him. Now, wait up and do what? Welcome him in to empty his house and ravish his daughters.

        Why did Jesus tell Peter to carry a sword on that one night. Was it a deterrent that they not get way laid on their mission?

        Do you have a God given right to self defense whether from a shark attack or a Jihadist? Could you shoot a man attacking the innocent?

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      • the message “let’s respect everyone’s opinion/ faith/ belief system” didn’t work and isn’t gospel.
        Paul went to idolatrous, murderous pagan communities not celebrating a diversity of opinion/ respecting every God given life on earth doesn’t mean respecting or loving their condition or belief system.. I’ve slept in remote Fijian islander communities where people’s great grand parents were flesh eating cannibals – literally. Young Jake from Craigieburn High went to Syria/ Iraq for the cause of greater Islam/ a caliphate. In his mind, the real thing religion. He was sincere and sincerely wrong and its too late now. Telling him we “respect Islam” didn’t bring him any closure to actual Jesus.

        Too late now but I would have done all in my power to tell him the Qur’an is wrong. Not righteous, not quotable, not some good bits, some bad bits, but a gateway to hell. Well, Too little too late. Chrislam didn’t work, doesn’t work, isn’t what God said. The war of civilizations, so called, continues. If I can tip the scales in just one reader’s mind today or years from now, it might just save a potential Craigieburn Jake. Just one would be enough. Just one soul, angels rejoice over even one who comes. cheers

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      • God created all people, and created them differently for reasons and purpose we may not understand. Regardless of how we perceive other people to be, they are God’s creations, and it God’s will for us to show respect to everyone.

        John 13:34-0

        34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.

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      • ergo Bryan, you have the same posthumous respect for Muhammad that you do for Jesus..

        It’s not Christianity.

        Love the sinner, hate their thinking. You don’t see it do you?

        All of man’s righteousness was only every filth.

        Muhammad didn’t preach the blood of Jesus
        Christ; thus his thinking was/ is crap.

        Its’ only weeks now, I personally guess before there’s another Paris, but it will be worse. Much worse.. That’s my personal guess as to what the prophet Haggai saw.

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      • ergo Bryan, you have the same posthumous respect for Muhammad that you do for Jesus..

        NO!

        I personally guess before there’s another Paris, but it will be worse

        Perhaps. Perhaps not. As you say it’s just a guess.

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    • Some extreme Christianist groups that have shown their capacity for violence and fanaticism.

      1. The Army of God

      A network of violent Christianists that has been active since the early 1980s, the Army of God openly promotes killing abortion providers—and the long list of terrorists who have been active in that organization’

      Although primarily an anti-abortion organization, the Army of God also has a history of promoting violence against gays. And one of the terrorist acts that Rudolph confessed to was bombing a lesbian bar in Atlanta in 1997.

      2. Eastern Lightning, a.k.a. the Church of the Almighty God

      Founded in Henan Province, China in 1990, Eastern Lightning (also known as the Church of the Almighty God or the Church of the Gospel’s Kingdom) is a Christianist cult with an end-time/apocalypse focus: Eastern Lightning believes that the world is coming to an end, and in the meantime, its duty is to slay as many demons as possible.

      3. The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA)

      The mainstream media have had much to say about the Islamist brutality of Boko Haram, but one terrorist group they haven’t paid nearly as much attention to is the Lord’s Resistance Army—which was founded by Joseph Kony (a radical Christianist) in Uganda in 1987 and has called for the establishment of a severe Christian fundamentalist government in that country. The LRA, according to Human Rights Watch, has committed thousands of killings and kidnappings—and along the way, its terrorism spread from Uganda to parts of the Congo, the Central African Republic (CAR) and South Sudan. The word “jihadist” is seldom used in connection with the LRA, but in fact, the LRA’s tactics are not unlike those of ISIS or Boko Haram. And the governments Kony hopes to establish in Sub-Saharan Africa would implement a Christianist equivalent of Islamic Sharia law.

      4. TheNational Liberation Front of Tripura

      India is not only a country of Hindus and Sikhs, but also, of Muslims, Buddhists, Catholics and Protestants. Most of India’s Christians are peaceful, but a major exception is the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT). Active in the state of Tripura in Northeastern India since 1989, NLFT is a paramilitary Christianist movement that hopes to secede from India and establish a Christian fundamentalist government in Tripura. NLFT has zero tolerance for any religion other than Christianity, and the group has repeatedly shown a willingness to kill, kidnap or torture Hindus who refuse to be converted to its extreme brand of Protestant fundamentalism.

      5. The Phineas Priesthood

      White supremacist groups don’t necessarily have a religious orientation: some of them welcome atheists as long as they believe in white superiority. But the Christian Identity movement specifically combines white supremacist ideology with Christianist terrorism, arguing that violence against non-WASPs is ordained by God and that white Anglo Saxon Protestants are God’s chosen people. The modern Christian Identity movement in the U.S. has been greatly influenced by the Ku Klux Klan—an organization that has committed numerous acts of terrorism over the years—and in the 1970s, new Christian Identity groups like the Aryan Nations and the Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord (CSA) emerged. Another Christian Identity group of recent decades has been the Phineas Priesthood, whose members have been involved in violent activities ranging from abortion clinic bombings to bank robberies (mainly in the Pacific Northwest). being shot and killed by police.

      http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/

      These Christian groups are using religion as an excuse, exactly as the Muslim terrorists are. In reality they are all fanatics and criminals. We should forget the terrorists are Muslim, imho.

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  2. The Muslin countries are also affected by other Muslims killing.
    This list is just 2015.
    It is interesting that no one is immune not even Saudi Arabia.

    Cameroon, Maroua
    Nigeria, Ambe-Madaki
    Iraq, Mosul
    Lebanon, Tripoli
    Philippines, Barangay Tukanalipao
    Libya, Tripoli
    Mali Tabankort
    Cameroon, Fotokol
    Afghanistan, Logar
    Yemen, , Taiz
    Sudan, al-Fashar
    Chad, Maidogo
    Bangladesh, Dhaka

    Saudi Arabia Qadeeh, An ISIS suicide bomber detonates at a Shia mosque, slaying twenty-one worshippers.

    Kuwait, Kuwait City, Sunni radicals stage a suicide bombing at a Shiite mosque, calling it the ‘temple of the rejectionists’ and leave over two dozen dead.

    Other countries affected but not a full list:

    Thailand
    Cameroon
    Tunisia
    Kenya
    Israel
    India
    Pakistan

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      • but that’s not what a Jihadist will tell you. When they say Allah hu Akbar, launch the rocket,, pull the pin or pull a trigger they will happily quote the Qur’an they say they have the correct reading on. The people killed in the Westfield mall in Kenya were vetted on whether or not they could quote Qur’an.

        It wasn’t indiscriminate power politics at all. It was Muslims identifying as Muslims specifically targeting Christians and identifying as Christians to kill them. Not to have power over them, not dominate them, but to kill them. and quoting their Qur’an to do so.

        Their is no equivalent in the Christian liturgy, ethos, words of Jesus. It isn’t there.

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  3. “Saudi Arabia’s highest religious body also spoke out, saying “terrorists are not sanctioned by Islam and these acts are contrary to values of mercy it brought to the world.”

    Cannot agree with this one. Saudi Arabia has an awful human rights record. Also, not sure what mercy Islam brought to the world.

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  4. Interesting comments from the Pope.

    “Explaining that he sees the violence as part of a “piecemeal Third World War,”

    It certainly looks that way and its birthplace is within Islam.

    I do place great responsibility upon Islam for allowing young boys to become terrorists.
    Then there is the lack of effort to wedge out ISIS. We have all these Islamic nations around Syria and Iraq and it takes the west to lead the way with some support from Jordan.
    The might of the Saudi, Turkish and Jordan armies could squeeze out ISIS easily.
    The Turks go in and go for the Kurds mainly. Who are trying to remove ISIS!

    The ruling families do not want to do anything. Mind you the Saudis were quick to go into Yemen as it was a Shia revolt. They blame the west for not dealing with Assad sooner, the usual blame game while sitting on their hands.

    The UN is a toothless tiger once again and just sends out resolutions.

    Iran denies it has troops in Syria but reportedly hundreds of Iranian troops have arrived in Syria in preparation for an imminent assault on rebel-held areas.More are coming.

    So we have major powers in Syria and each with their own end game.

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    • Hi Alexie

      I am sad to see the attacks in Paris. I am also sad to see attacks in Syria, Beirut, Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. I did not cause them. Islam did not cause them.

      I do place great responsibility upon Islam for allowing young boys to become terrorists.

      I have gone on record to state a lot of the problem we face now are due to the lack of substance of the Muslims around the world. The problem is rather moving away from Islam rather than Islam itself.

      Fighting terror just feeds it rather than weakens it. You blow up a family in Pakistan with a drone; the survivors will forever hate the West looking for an outlet to that anger.

      We are living in a time of confusion and tribulations. This hadith is basically what scholars and Imams around me are telling us in facebook and the mosques.

      “There will be a tribulation during which one who is lying down will be better than one who is sitting, one who is sitting will be better than one who is standing, one who is standing will be better than one who is walking, and one who is walking will be better than one who is running.” Someone asked, “O Messenger of Allah, what do you advise me to do?” He said, “Whoever has camels, let him stay with them, and whoever has land, let him stay in his land.” Someone asked, “What about someone who does not have anything like that?” He said, “Then let him take his sword and strike its edge against a stone, then go as far away as possible.” (Abu Dawud; similar Hadith in Muslim)

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      • not one single word in that article about Jesus gospel. Now I get where you’re coming at this problem from,

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      • I doubt it PG.

        First, I think we need to see that loving the enemy who can do such things to us is not just vapid idealism. The whole point of the Christian story is summed up thus: “While we were yet his enemies, Christ died for us.” (Romans 5: 6-10) In other words, God shows love for us precisely by putting off the divine power that we crave. The day after this heinous attack, we may wish for God to come down and wipe out our enemies. Instead, Christ on the cross, completely powerless at the last, shows us that it is only love that can overcome hatred, evil and even death.

        http://episcopaldigitalnetwork.com/ens/2015/11/14/in-paris-do-we-have-to-love-our-enemies-bishop-whalon-statement/

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      • Since you say they are moving away from Islam and then Fighting terror just feeds it rather than weakens it.

        What on earth can be done then? Speak nicely to terrorists?

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      • at the cross the disciples were dejected helpless and hopeless and scattered, even though John saw it through to the last breath. At the resurrection they were still confused and shocked. It wasn’t until the baptism in the Holy Spirit that the power to overcome the world shone through this current darkness. The cross looked like and felt like a failure, as the Pope recently put it. The love there hadn’t converted anyone, though one savvy Roman soldier realized what they had just done. – “:surely this was the son of God”

        Dom’s Jesus didn’t die on a cross and rise from the dead. Hence the historical confusion and 1300 years of skirmishes, wars, slavery and bitterness. Dom says people have moved away from the pure Islam and I’m pointing out he’s never known the actual Jesus and still doesn’t know Him.

        …………. and verse for verse comparisons of the the Koran and Holy Bible demonstrate allah and YHWH are not one and the same.
        While I respect Dom is made in the image of God, I herein, ad nauseum, repeat his qur’an and the gospel are mutually exclusive to the point that one has to be rejected at the expense of the other. Jesus deserves loyalty and openness. Will this be a place of decision for that.

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      • Evil is as evil does. You will know them by their fruits.

        To act appropriately would be to defend our right (at all costs) to live in safety and peace. “Speaking nicely” does not work.

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      • PG:

        “I herein, ad nauseum, repeat his qur’an (sic) and the gospel are mutually exclusive to the point that one has to be rejected at the expense of the other.”

        Regardless of your need to repeat things ad nauseum, all you’ve done with this statement is present us with a false dilemma.

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      • What on earth can be done then? Speak nicely to terrorists?

        Since you asked. Just some common sense will go a long way.

        Don’t declare a war, kill a hundred thousand civilians, create a power vacuum and say sorry, we had bad intelligence. bye oh and by the way we won’t accept any of the refugees we caused.

        http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/03/18_blix.shtml

        Treat all civilians death as equal. .

        http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/11/malala-nabila-worlds-apart-201311193857549913.html

        Really sort out the man made issues in Palestine. Don’t veto every action to bring them to account for their war crimes. Better still remove veto power from all countries.

        Break the cycle basically. Need to start somewhere.

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      • Jesus gave the definitive dichotomy Stu, you serve God or mammon.

        ie. His Father or self interest/ the illusion of gain, Satan’s enlightenment, science falsely so called/ materialism over the eternal/.

        It’s Jesus’ dichotomy. Call it what you will, but it is an exclusive one way offer. To the exclusion of all others, like a marriage, paid for with His blood the price.

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      • Dom ,you are blaming everyone else but the people causing the killings. A very common Muslim trait I find. Blame the west, blame Israel, Blame Christians, blame, blame, lame.

        I originally said responsibility!

        Is that too hard to accept, that Islam should do something to reduce radicalisation, that they should clean up the mess that is ISIS?

        Common sense! Not so common when face with a gun to your head by a muslim or a beheading.

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      • You asked me a question I answered it Alexie.

        All this has been prophesied and a lot of the blame is with Muslims turning away from God, That is the root of the problem.

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      • Alexie:

        “…blaming everyone else but the people causing the killings. A very common Muslim trait I find.”

        I suppose, using this kind of logic, I could form a view about Christians based on the contributions to this site of PG, davinci and yourself. Bigotry, religious intolerance, hypocrisy, racism and stereotyping – are these Christian traits?

        “I originally said responsibility!”

        Dom isn’t responsible for the actions of Muslims in France just because you say so. Just as Byran (for example) isn’t responsible for what you or PG say on this blog.

        “Is that too hard to accept, that Islam should do something to reduce radicalisation, that they should clean up the mess that is ISIS?”

        What should “Islam” do? Who’s “they”? What specific thing do you want Dom to “do”? In your responses, PG and yourself  have chosen not to deal with the points of substance raised by Dom and Bryan and instead given us your meaningless opinions on “Muslim traits”. I note you ignored comments by the former ASIO head about mainstream Muslims being central to combating extremism and condemnation of the acts in Paris by Muslim leaders in Australia and overseas. Of course you ignored these, it just doesn’t fit with your preconceived narrative does it?

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      • “Is that too hard to accept, that Islam should do something to reduce radicalisation, that they should clean up the mess that is ISIS?”

        ISIS are killing Muslims, so it is a bit hard to send a delegation to visit ISIS. It don’t receive a lot of media which is strange because that sort of media coverage would really hurt ISIS. Oh well.

        http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/07/isis-s-gruesome-muslim-death-toll.html

        So instead open letters are written which unfortunately the media decline to print.

        https://www.rt.com/news/190468-muslim-scholars-islamic-state/

        Pauline Hanson does not seem to have any problem getting media coverage. Maybe we can ask her to read it out. That would bound to get more media coverage.

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      • Stu

        get off high horse before you fall.

        Read carefully before replying

        “I suppose, using this kind of logic, I could form a view about Christians based on the contributions to this site of PG, davinci and yourself. Bigotry, religious intolerance, hypocrisy, racism and stereotyping – are these Christian traits?”

        Logic? No. The words you used are but labels incorrectly applied. Plus how can you compare a few people on a blog to thousand being killed. Now that is not logical.

        Dom isn’t responsible for the actions of Muslims in France just because you say so.”

        I did not say he was. hence the please read carefully bit.
        Muslims extremists come from Islam. So they should be doing something about it collectively.

        “What should “Islam” do? Who’s “they”? What specific thing do you want Dom to “do”?”

        Again I did not specifically say Dom. Please Read carefully.
        Islam needs to do more. They are not doing enough over many decades. They blame others yet sit back and watch as many men from across the world kill each other. Even Dom sees that Muslims are doing this. As he said, they move away from Islam.

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      • Alexie.

        Interesting that you chose to again ignore the substantive points made by Bryan, Dom and Maurice, points which I reminded you of. Why are you ignoring these points?

        “The words you used are but labels incorrectly applied.”

        Demonstrate how I have “labeled” anything, let alone incorrectly.

        “Plus how can you compare a few people on a blog to thousand being killed. Now that is not logical.”

        Sure, allow me to demonstrate with the following statement: One person on a blog advocating violence against innocent people is ethically wrong and one person committing violence against innocent people is ethically wrong.

        “I did not say he was [responsible for the actions of Muslims in France…]”

        Dom made some comments about how he sees some Muslims corrupting Islam to which you replied “I said responsibility”. So yeah, you kinda did.

        “Muslims extremists come from Islam. So they should be doing something about it collectively.”

        What? The extremists should be doing something about the extremism?

        “Islam needs to do more. They are not doing enough over many decades.”

        Do what exactly, and who do you want to do it? Who’s “they”? This is the second time I’ve had to ask this question.

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      • Stu

        Playing the fool again. Very well too stu.
        Again, you read not bialy interpret what people write.

        You are probably one of those people who believe women are responsible for domestic violence. Dom and you too know, want to place the blame on the western victims and not the perpetrators. There are thousands killed every year by Muslims. wake up! Do not blame the persons being victimised. Islam (they) can do a lot to greatly reduce the issues. They kill each other and others a long the way.
        It is not isolated. I wonder if you would go to Paris and spout your stupidity to them right now? What about Nigeria where many hundreds girls have been abducted. Kenya with hundreds dead at the university. All over the world it is happening. Europe is slowly waking up to the dangers.

        The leaders are only today meeting and I can guarantee you they are not thinking like you and Dom. I did notice some Islamic leaders there not from Turkey. We may yet see a change in action from them. “they” will be critical to any long term change while you just blah blah on about nothing.

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      • Alexie.

        “Again, you read not bialy interpret what people write.”

        I know, but then again, look at what you give me to work with.

        “You are probably one of those people who believe women are responsible for domestic violence. ”

        I think you need to understand the word “probably” in the first instance. Then we can discuss… no, on second thought, let’s leave it to the group to work out how you worked domestic violence into this conversation. Anyone?

        For the record, and just because it wasn’t clear the first two times, what exactly do you want “Islam” to do, and who do you want to do it? Who is the “they” you keep referring to? This is the third time I’ve had to ask these questions, and I’ve lost count about about the times you’ve ignored the points made by Bryan, Dom and Maurice.

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      • Silly Stu does not know who they are.
        Even good thinking Muslims are saying the same thing that “they” Muslims, should do more.

        mohammad ali sei (not sure of spelling) A commentator on ABC news is a muslim welfare worker and regular guest speaker. He himself has stated that Islam has a toxic victim mentality. That we (Islam) all around the world need to be doing more and not blaming others. It was so refreshing and brings it all into the realm of a debate. While some here want to label others for this discussion and debate here we have a muslim who really want to stop the killings.
        What was interesting from the discussion, which is why we need them, is that he believes most if not all of the terrorists come from the strict wahabbi sect of Islam born from with Sausi Arabia.

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      • Alexie.

        “Silly Stu does not know who they are.”

        I can understand why you had to resort to the ad hominem attack – once you’ve stereotyped all Muslims with particular “traits” and lumped “them” with responsibility for combatting extremism you really have nowhere else to go, except maybe to a Reclaim Australia rally.

        I note (again) your inability to deal meaningfully with the comments made by the former ASIO chief and condemnation of the acts in Paris by Muslim leaders in Australia and overseas.

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    • Think

      First, set aside our initial emotional responses of fear and anger. These are what the terrorists count on. Deny them.

      After grieving for the dead and suffering, put feelings aside and start thinking.

      This is hard but essential.

      Unite

      Second, we should remind ourselves that our unity is a prerequisite to our success. We weaken ourselves by division. To turn against the Muslim community would be counterproductive. To alienate the Muslim community would be to promote radicalisation.

      The former ASIO chief, David Irvine, said last year that we should thank the Muslim community in Australia, not blame it. Mainstream Muslims are central to the task of rooting out extremists.

      It was helpful of the Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammed, to swiftly condemn the Paris murders as “heinous attacks of cowardice”.

      While tending unity, we should also harden our resistance to the enemy.

      This means we should stop doing the terrorists’ propaganda work for them. This should be our third realm of response.

      Banish false respect

      Every time we refer to them by their self-chosen title of Islamic State, we dignify the enemies of civilisation with a false respectability. We refuse to call North Korea by its self-chosen title, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. Why do we fall for Islamic State?

      They are neither Islamic nor a State, just blasphemous barbarians. Officials increasingly prefer to call them by the Arabic acronym, Daesh. The media, including this outlet, should follow suit.

      And every time we describe one of their attacks as “frightening” or one of their propaganda videos as “chilling”, we help our enemies by amplifying their message. Since when did objective reporters use adjectives, anyway?

      TV channels should stop endlessly broadcasting Daesh propaganda videos.

      They are not news footage. They are tools of the enemy.

      Governments and social media corporations should work harder to block Daesh outlets. We do not tolerate incitements to violence in our society. They are an unacceptable abuse of freedom of speech. We should not allow Daesh, the worst offenders on the planet, a special exemption.

      Preserve civilised borders

      Fourth, we need to apply utmost rigour to our borders. The terrorist attacks are a powerful prompt for us to make sure that our borders are policed effectively, but not shut down.

      If more resources and systems are needed, the federal and state governments should deliver them.

      But Australia’s program of immigration, including the refugee intake, and social stabilisation through multiculturalism, are important national policies that need to be preserved.

      Destroy their base

      Fifth, Australia and all civilised nations need to make a serious effort to shut down the terrorists’ base. Daesh occupies a large area of Iraq and Syria, which it calls a caliphate. Enlarging the caliphate as the basis for global domination is Daesh’s grand aim.

      Control of this so-called caliphate is the basis for their operations, their recruitment, their revenue, their credibility.

      To now, the West and the regional powers have made only a token effort to strangle it.

      The Paris attacks should galvanise collective resolve. A serious multinational effort is required to stabilise Syria and fortify Iraq. Talks have just started, but with the most tepid of intent.

      The Daesh attackers were prepared to commit suicide in the cause of the caliphate. What efforts are we prepared to make to preserve civilisation?

      http://www.theage.com.au/comment/paris-attacks-five-things-the-world-must-do-in-response-20151115-gkzjfp#ixzz3rbO1862V

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      • “The Paris attacks should galvanise collective resolve. A serious multinational effort is required to stabilise Syria and fortify Iraq. Talks have just started, but with the most tepid of intent.”

        Too true. Multi national, but involving the Islamic States surrounding them.

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      • Well said, Maurice.
        Alexie, you say – “Dom ,you are blaming everyone else but the people causing the killings. A very common Muslim trait I find. Blame the west, blame Israel, Blame Christians, blame, blame, lame.”

        I am not a Muslim, and I, while recognising all the fault does not lie with the West, also see that a large amount does.

        Quote:
        By most scholarly measure, Bush and Blair’s invasion of Iraq in 2003 led to the deaths of some 700,000 people – in a country that had no history of jihadism. The Kurds had done territorial and political deals; Sunni and Shia had class and sectarian differences, but they were at peace; intermarriage was common. Three years before the invasion, I drove the length of Iraq without fear. On the way I met people proud, above all, to be Iraqis, the heirs of a civilization that seemed, for them, a presence.

        Bush and Blair blew all this to bits. Iraq is now a nest of jihadism. Al-Qaeda – like Pol Pot’s “jihadists” – seized the opportunity provided by the onslaught of Shock and Awe and the civil war that followed. “Rebel” Syria offered even greater rewards, with CIA and Gulf state ratlines of weapons, logistics and money running through Turkey. The arrival of foreign recruits was inevitable. A former British ambassador, Oliver Miles, wrote recently, “The [Cameron] government seems to be following the example of Tony Blair, who ignored consistent advice from the Foreign Office, MI5 and MI6 that our Middle East policy – and in particular our Middle East wars – had been a principal driver in the recruitment of Muslims in Britain for terrorism here.” Unquote

        Quote-
        A study by the United Nations Children’s Fund, Unicef, found that between 1991 and 1998, the height of the blockade, there were 500,000 “excess” deaths of Iraqi infants under the age of five. An American TV reporter put this to Madeleine Albright, US Ambassador to the United Nations, asking her, “Is the price worth it?” Albright replied, “We think the price is worth it.” Unquote

        http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/from-pol-pot-to-isis-anything-that-flies-on-everything-that-moves/

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      • mohammad ali sei (not sure of spelling) A commentator on ABC news is a muslim welfare worker and regular guest speaker. He himself has stated that Islam has a toxic victim mentality. That we (Islam) all around the world need to be doing more and not blaming others. It was so refreshing and brings it all into the realm of a debate. While some here want to label others for this discussion and debate here we have a muslim who really want to stop the killings.
        What was interesting from the discussion, which is why we need them, is that he believes most if not all of the terrorists come from the strict wahabbi sect of Islam born from with Sausi Arabia.

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    • maintain the status quo. don’t rock any boats, it was only 140 killed so no need to change any real thoughts policing.

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      • Aurelie Chatelian wasn’t killed by hate speech Bryan. And you don’t get the difference between words and bullets. In a fantasist’s world they are the same thing – but life isn’t a print media, a blog, and leftist thought police don’t stop bullets.

        Censorship wouldn’t have saved her life.

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      • It’s not a game Phillip.
        I asked you before. Questions that you ignore.
        What are you doing to bring peace to the world?
        And what are you doing to bring about open discussion?
        Do you expect the killing to stop by your rantings?
        Rantings and hate speech wouldn’t have stopped Aurelie Chatelian’s killing
        Honest questions.
        I wonder if you’ll answer them honestly.

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      • no you just didn’t see the black and white answers before you. I’ve kept saying the same thing. It’s the same answer as above.
        My flag is “Jesus died, Jesus is risen” as it is written in General Lee’s home at Arlington Cemetery. Second floor bedroom though the tapestry may have been moved so as not to offend muslims.

        the Qur’an contradicts the tapestry in General Lee’s home – and it has done for a thousand and three hundred years with rivers of blood beneath that bridge.

        So I stand in opposition to the Qur’an. That’s what I’m doing.
        If the gospel doesn’t work, I’m not going to try something else with the veneer of temporal peace. It doesn’t matter to me if its “peaceful Islam” or “Jihadist Islam”. They are both antichrists is different clothing.

        Loyalty to Jesus means this to me. No version of Islam is good.

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    • Islam needs to do more. They are not doing enough over many decades. They blame others yet sit back and watch as many men from across the world kill each other. Even Dom sees that Muslims are doing this. As he said, they move away from Islam.

      There are some gaps. Let me fill them in.

      Muslims turned away from God and became materialistic. God gave us what we wanted such as abundance of oil but it was a curse not a blessing. So the stage was set for greed to set it. Suddenly the leaders of the world sat up and took notice of the Middle East and the blood started to flow.


      Let our position be absolutely clear: An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.
      —Jimmy Carter, state of the union address, Jan. 23, 1980

      and around and around we go.

      Decades down the track hotheads chasing their own desires of revenge. More hotheads are created every day as civilians casualties mount. The scholars are trying to reel them in but the media of the day is not helping them to have a voice. The key is to have patience with what is happening around us and turn back to God and put your faith in God. As the prophet said hit your sword edge against a rock and go far away.

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      • One of your own Waleed Ali on Channel Ten spoke well tonight. He also happens to me a muslim. he stated the way to fight ISIS (or any other Islamic terror group) is to bind together. So that would mean Islamic countries and people to connect with their non muslims and to do something about it all. Islam, as I have stated elsewhere, needs to join in. Imagine all the young men being trained to kill if most of the Islamic countries joined an international coalition to fight terrorism. I reckon overnight thousands would walk away from terror. Isis and others want to split people into division Waleed says. This is true. The West is trying to do something, this is going to step up. Islam needs to stop the talk and do the walk. Jordan has also already started.

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    • Spot the lefty. Stu-

      The left want to stop debate and discussion and create no go zones to push people into their way of thinking.
      Will not work here.
      The Muslims themselves I have pointed out here want that discussion so they must be phobic of themselves or intolerant.
      You must hate it that they agree with me.
      “responsibility for combatting extremism you really”

      This shows you do not read what people write.

      Yes, Muslims are responsible andes they should get on board to help stop terror. But as I have stated with the west too.

      Your thinking will get us nowhere. We need open dialogue, Islam must get on board and action taken not just words.

      Your views are a dead end street to nowhere.

      As for ASIO and muslims leaders condemning. That is fine. Great. More words. Acton please! Waleed and Mohommed, both news commentators have stated that Muslims need to do more. That we need to work at this together and not be divided. So continue diving Stu. Keep labelling to stop discussion because it will not work.

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      • Alexie.

        “This shows you do not read what people write.”

        Yet me demonstrating the fact that you keep  ignoring (or glossing over) the substantive points made by others doesn’t resonate with you at all. And despite me quoting verbatim.

        “That we need to work at this together and not be divided.”

        I agree with this statement, but you own generalisation of Muslim “traits”, your implication that all Muslims are responsible for extremism and your failure to recognise the role of Western powers in the rise of extremism in parts of the world does nothing to suggest you actually believe what you write.

        But don’t let me stop you. Far from wanting to “stop debate and discussion”, I fully support your right to resort to ad hominem attacks while contradicting yourself and expressing bigoted views in a barely readable form.

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      • Waleed Aly’s salient points from Monday night do not focus on Muslims having to “do more”:

        “ISIL leaders would be ecstatic to hear that Muslims have been reportedly threatened and attacked in England, America and here in Australia because this evil organisation has it in their heads that if they can make Muslims the enemy of the West, then Muslims in France and England and America and here in Australia will have nowhere to turn but to ISIL. That was exactly their strategy in Iraq. And now they want it to go global. Saying that out loud, it is both dumbfounding in its stupidity and blood-curdling in its barbarity…

        So if you’re a member of Parliament or a has-been member of Parliament (Pauline Hanson) preaching hate at a time when what we actually need is more love, you are helping ISIL. They have told us that. If you are a Muslim leader telling your community they have no place here, or a non-Muslim basically saying the same thing, you are helping ISIL. They have told us that. Or if you’re just someone with a Facebook or Twitter account firing off misguided missives of hate, you are helping ISIL. They have told us that. And I am pretty sure that right now none of us wants to help these bastards.”

        http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-18/barnes-waleed-aly-gave-the-speech-turnbull-should-have/6950246

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  5. ” By most scholarly measure, Bush and Blair’s invasion of Iraq in 2003 led to the deaths of some 700,000 people – in a country that had no history of jihadism. The Kurds had done territorial and political deals; Sunni and Shia had class and sectarian differences, but they were at peace; intermarriage was common. Three years before the invasion, I drove the length of Iraq without fear. On the way I met people proud, above all, to be Iraqis, the heirs of a civilization that seemed, for them, a presence.

    ” Bush and Blair blew all this to bits. Iraq is now a nest of jihadism. Al-Qaeda – like Pol Pot’s “jihadists” – seized the opportunity provided by the onslaught of Shock and Awe and the civil war that followed. “Rebel” Syria offered even greater rewards, with CIA and Gulf state ratlines of weapons, logistics and money running through Turkey. The arrival of foreign recruits was inevitable. A former British ambassador, Oliver Miles, wrote recently, “The [Cameron] government seems to be following the example of Tony Blair, who ignored consistent advice from the Foreign Office, MI5 and MI6 that our Middle East policy – and in particular our Middle East wars – had been a principal driver in the recruitment of Muslims in Britain for terrorism here.”

    “A study by the United Nations Children’s Fund, Unicef, found that between 1991 and 1998, the height of the blockade, there were 500,000 “excess” deaths of Iraqi infants under the age of five. An American TV reporter put this to Madeleine Albright, US Ambassador to the United Nations, asking her, “Is the price worth it?” Albright replied, “We think the price is worth it.”

    http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/from-pol-pot-to-isis-anything-that-flies-on-everything-that-moves/

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    • Let us not forget the deaths of millions between Iraq and Iran. Peace was certainly not something they had.
      There was gassing of thousand by Iraqi government. There was training of terrorists to counter neighboring Turkey and Iran, as well as Palestinian groups.Iraq supported the Mujahedeen-e-Khalq and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party. Which Turkey continues to fight today. Iraq has also supported the Islamist Hamas movement and sent money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. As a secular dictator Saddam, the then leader of Iraq, tended to support secular terrorist groups rather than Islamist ones such as al-Qaed. he had links to Syria also. So to say it was all happy happy, classy, classy is just utter nonsense.

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      • I agree, Alexei. I too thought that an exaggeration. But is the situation not worse than when Saddam was in power?

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      • Yes, it is worse. Much worse.But certainly never peaceful. Certainly what we have now had its seeds when Saddam was in power.

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      • “Certainly what we have now had its seeds when Saddam was in power”.(Alexei)
        And dropping bombs on Muslims will help those seeds to grow, and encourage more.

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  6. Japan has no terrorism from Muslims

    In 2011, Sunni Muslims accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third year in a row. Over 5,700 incidents were committed by Sunni Muslims, responsible for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of 12,533 fatalities.*

    Another 24 percent of the fatalities are on Shi´a Muslims. So in 2011, Muslims were responsible for 94 percent of the fatalities in terrorist attacks. Since 2011, with ISIS on the scene, the number of the fatalities –victims of the Muslim terrorist attacks- sharply grew, together with Muslims´ share in the world terrorism that is steadily closing in on 100%.

    In 2013, according to the US Department of State, a total of 9,707 terrorist attacks occurred worldwide, resulting in more than 17,800 deaths and more than 32,500 injuries. In addition, more than 2,990 people were kidnapped or taken hostage. Information about perpetrators was reported in source materials for 32 percent of terrorist attacks in 2013.

    And of these 32 percent, or 17,800 deaths, only three Muslim terrorist groups, namely the Taliban, ISIS and Boko Haram, were responsible for 5,655 fatalities, or for 31.76 percent! That means that 31.76 percent out of the 32 percent of terrorist attacks which had reported information about the attackers were perpetrated by only three Muslim terrorist groups, out of a good 50 more that exist in our turbulent world!

    Muslim terrorists can be proud: their share in world terrorist attacks is now close to 100%
    …..
    .And the most interesting thing in the Japanese approach to Muslims is the fact that the Japanese do not feel any guilt for such a “discriminatory” approach to Islam, and they evidently do not think they should apologize to Muslims for the negative way in which they perceive their religion. Arab gas and oil- yes, and Japan maintains good relations with Arab exporters. But Islam – no, and Muslim immigration- neither. Islam is something that is suitable for others, not for Japan, and therefore the Muslims must remain outside.

    And Muslims in Japan do not riot, they do not brand the Japanese “racists”, they do not burn cars, smash windows, behead Japanese soldiers for having been in Afghanistan, Iraq or anywhere else on Earth – and not a single Japanese has been victim of a Muslim terrorist attack on Japanese soil in the last 30 years.
    http://chersonandmolschky.com/2015/04/13/islamic-terrorism-japan/

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    • Unfortunately Muslims do 100% of the terror because basically only crimes done by Muslims are labelled as terror crimes.

      Let’s play spot the terrorist.

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  7. Turkey Thinking about a consulate for ISIS

    Masks are off: Hakan Fidan, the head of Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization, (MIT), and the Turkish President’s staunchest ally, cynically condemned Russian military support to the legitimate government of Syria saying it was “against Islam” and accused Moscow of a serious breach of the United Nations laws because they were trying to ‘smother Syria’s Islamist revolution’.

    So, killing thousands of children, raping tens of thousands of women and making them sex-slaves, cutting heads off hostages before cameras and shooting prisoners is, in Turkish opinion, “Islamic revolution”.

    “ISIS is a reality and we have to accept that we cannot eradicate a well-organized and popular establishment such as the Islamic State; therefore I urge my Western colleagues to revise their mindset about Islamic political currents, put aside their cynical mentalité and thwart Vladimir Putin’s plans to crush Syrian Islamist revolutionaries,” Anadolu News Agency quoted Mr. Fidan as saying on Sunday.

    Fidan further added that in order to deal with the vast number of foreign Jihadists craving to travel to Syria, it is imperative that ISIS must set up a consulate or at least a political office in Istanbul. He underlined that it is Turkey’s firm belief to provide medical care for all injured people fleeing “Russian ruthless airstrikes regardless of their political or religious affiliation.”
    http://chersonandmolschky.com/2015/11/14/turkey-probes-legalize-isis/

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  8. Speaking nicely to perpetrators may not work, but does military force?

    The estimated military casualties of WWII were 20,858,800, and of civilians 27,372,900.
    A total of 48,231,700.

    How long do we try other methods, before giving up and responding violently?

    On the other hand, how long do we try force before giving up and trying other methods?

    In the first case, usually not very long.
    In the second case, possibly generations. Although the example of Vietnam showed a shorter time span.

    Let us give love a chance to work. Love doesn’t mean approval, it can be quite tough love.
    Responding with force is going to radicalise more youth to support their cause.

    There are going to be more and more disaffected people, frightened people, all over the world, as their old security drops away with the world economy – jobs, income, a future for their children, gone, as technology takes over. They blame the greed of multinationals, perhaps identifying that with the West, rightly or wrongly. They know only they must fight against this, but that is no solution.

    In America the homeless were a huge cost on the economy when they were treated harshly. Now some municipalities are providing them with independent shelter and basics, and saving money thereby.

    As we move away from a cash economy to electronic calculations, we realise that money will one day be no longer necessary. But we have to change, away from competitive hoarding to caring and sharing.

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    • In this climate in which everything is understood through the late 20th-century victim culture, the Kurds make little sense. For here we have a people who do not advertise their weakness in the hope that Western activists will adopt and publicly pity them, or see weepy speeches at the UN as the answer to their every problem

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  9. Copied from another site-

    “Does time really heal everything ?

    “Glad you brought that up. It does take a very long time for some national insults to be forgotten but forgiveness can be achieved if we want to go there. Some cultures have little concept of forgiveness. They demand atonement – there must be some kind of compensation or retribution is sought. Primitive societies live by the principle of payback.

    “To answer your question, I think that time is a necessary component to the healing process but a desire for reconciliation is essential. For that to happen people must be prepared to entertain the concept of forgiveness.

    “Forgiveness is required of Christians. It isn’t an optional extra.

    “Matthew 18:21-22
    21Then Peter came and said to Him, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” 22Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.

    “Jesus then went on to tell the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant and made very clear his position on the subject of forgiveness and of refusing to practise it.”

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  10. Dom and Stu

    Did you hear the French and other leaders are pushing for muslim troops on the ground to defeat ISIS? Imagine that, having muslims deal directly with their own backyard. Taking responsibility to crush the scourge that is ISIS. I will believe it when I see but it is a start. These guys must all be labeled then, have a phobia of muslims then? They must be intolerant of muslims? They must be racist? Wait, you cannot be racists about a religion! They must be bigots!

    Wow! Amazing to think what can happen when ALL contribute to the problem and not just the west.

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    • Of course there must be action to stop individuals, and of course there must be action to stop the lucrative oil industry that is funding IS. That is not the same as an action, knee jerk but understandable, of all out attack. Vengeance

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    • Hi Alexie

      Did you hear the French and other leaders are pushing for muslim troops on the ground to defeat ISIS

      I do not call throwing down bombs from a great height any sort of fighting. Who do you think is fighting ISIS on the ground ?

      ISIS sprung from a power vacuum created by an illegal invasion of Iraq. I think the people that created the mess should be working towards solving it.

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      • Greenspan admits Iraq was about oil, as deaths put at 1.2m

        The man once regarded as the world’s most powerful banker has bluntly declared that the Iraq war was ‘largely’ about oil.
        Appointed by Ronald Reagan in 1987 and retired last year after serving four presidents, Alan Greenspan has been the leading Republican economist for a generation and his utterings instantly moved world markets.

        In his long-awaited memoir – out tomorrow in the US – Greenspan, 81, who served as chairman of the US Federal Reserve for almost two decades, writes: ‘I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.’

        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/sep/16/iraq.iraqtimeline?CMP=share_btn_fb

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  11. bryanpattersonfaithworks
    on November 15, 2015 at 15:05 said:
    Note to you; When you stop stereotyping people you will get closer to the truth.

    “”WOW “”
    But what about broad brush stroke statements directed towards those whom you have stereotyping .
    Or assigning a judgement on how they have to think compared to the way you think .

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  12. “…………. and verse for verse comparisons of the the Koran and Holy Bible demonstrate allah and YHWH are not one and the same.” PG

    PG, are you saying God is not ABLE to present himself to another culture in a form relevant to that culture? After all, he sent Jesus to the Jews , whose culture had relied on an animal to relieve them of their sins. A scapegoat, an animal which takes on the sins of others, or is unfairly blamed for problems.

    The concept comes originally from Leviticus, in which a goat is designated to be cast into the desert with the sins of the community. In the Bible, the term is used thrice in Leviticus 16, where two he-goats were to be sacrificed to Yahweh and one of the two was selected by lot, for Yahweh is seen as speaking through the lots. The next words are לַעֲזָאזֵל la-aza’zeyl, read either as “for absolute removal” or as “for Azazel”. This goat was then cast out in the desert as part of the Day of Atonement. But this had to be done annually.

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    • The translators of the Greek Septuagint understood the Hebrew term Azazel as meaning the sent away, and read:”8 and Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats, one lot for the Lord and the other lot for the scapegoat (Greek apompaios dat.).

      9 And Aaron shall present the goat on which the lot fell for the Lord, and offer it as a sin offering; 10 but the goat on which the lot of the sent away one fell shall be presented alive before the Lord to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away (Greek eis ten apompen acc.) into the wilderness.”

      Following the Septuagint, the Latin Vulgate,[9] Martin Luther[10] and the King James Bible also give readings such as Young’s Literal Translation: ‘And Aaron hath given lots over the two goats, one lot for Jehovah, and one lot for a goat of departure;’

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      • Yeah Strewth to put this in liberal language:-
        too many Shiites are Islamophobic of Sunnis and too many Sunnis are Islamophobic of Shiites.
        God must have sent those two wonderfully inclusive groups messages that were mutually exclusive.

        Right?

        Jesus died for the sins of all mankind. Full stop. There isn’t and won’t be a better revelation or sacrifice. He is saviour to every nation, race, tribe, family, person on Earth.

        Reject that offer and there won’t be another.

        Lots of Love, and genuinely sorry I missed you in Ballarat. I better push off now. see you on the other side where moth doesn’t destroy.

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      • PG, it’s not so long ago that Ireland (and outside Ireland) had deadly trouble between Catholics and Protestants. Are you blaming God for that too? Did he send these wonderfully inclusive Christian groups mutually exclusive messages?

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  13. All of the attackers from Friday’s massacre in Paris so far have been identified as European Union nationals, according to a top EU official. The announcement further casts doubt on the validity of a Syrian passport found near the bodies of a slain attacker.

    “Let me underline, the profile of the terrorists so far identified tells us this is an internal threat,” Federica Mogherini, the High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy/Vice-President of the European Commission, said after a meeting with EU foreign ministers. “It is all EU citizens so far. This can change with the hours, but so far it is quite clear it is an issue of internal domestic security.”

    The majority of attackers were identified as French or Belgian nationals. An Egyptian passport was also found, but the Egyptian Ambassador to France said it belonged to a critically wounded victim and not a perpetrator. The Syrian passport caused a ruckus, with some politicians in Europe and the U.S. calling for a halt to Syrian refugee resettlement. An increasing number of state governors are trying to defund the settlement program. American officials told CBS News that the passport might be fake, while British-daily the Independent reported that a man was arrested in Serbia while carrying a Syrian passport with matching details to the one found in Paris.

    http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/11/16/3722838/all-paris-attackers-identified-so-far-are-european-nationals-according-to-top-eu-official/

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  14. For some enlightening statistics on just how many Muslims support the core(extremist) beliefs of Islam, There’s an excellent video headed:- By The Numbers – The Untold Story of Muslim Opinions & Demographics – YouTube

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