Forgiveness is bliss

THERE is an Eastern tale of two monks about to cross a river when confronted by an arrogant noblewoman who demands to be carried across.

The younger monk refuses so the older silently takes the woman on his shoulders and crosses the water with her.

Later, the younger monk admonishes his colleague for allowing himself to be used as a beast of burden.

The older monk listens for a while and then says: “I rid myself of the burden at the edge of the river. But you are still carrying it.”

The moral of the tale is that resentment over injustice is often understandable but in the end counter productive.

The great religious thinker, Thomas Aquinas, wrote that the first effect of love was to melt anger, grief and fear.
He understood grief began with anger and rage. But to maintain it was to be stuck in a “servile relationship” with the object of our anger, he said.

One native American ritual to deal with resentment involves taking a rock, pouring your anger into it and then burying it deeply in the earth.

The symbolic act is about letting the cosmos absorb your grief. And your anger.

Mystic Anthony de Mello once said: “Don’t carry over experiences — good or bad — from the past.
“Do you know what causes unhappiness?
“You will probably say loneliness or oppression or war or hatred. And you will be wrong.
“There is only one cause of unhappiness. The false beliefs you have in your head.
“Your programming is so strong that you are literally trapped into perceiving the world in a distorted way.
“Drop your attachments to resentments and you will be free.”

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23 thoughts on “Forgiveness is bliss

  1. I remember a group exercise where everyone was encouraged to write down their resentments. Then there was a prayer for these to be lifted from us. Then all the papers were set alight, and everyone watched their resentments ascend and disappear in smoke.

    Alone or with two or three gathered together, surprising how effective this is.

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    • Agree. On several mens weekends we would clean a mates farm and pile all the branches.
      We would grab a log and scratch things we wanted forguvness for or others. We burnt it all that night. I remember one time the pile was at least 3m high and diameter of atleast 12m. His house was 50m away but we were close to setting the house alight.

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  2. Yes forgiveness is bliss but the older monk actions did nothing to address the women’s distorted view of her own importance, on the contrary, it reinforced it.

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    • The last time I heard that story, there was no mention of the woman’s arrogance, she was just a poor old woman wanting to cross. The monk who carried her was not supposed to touch women, and the rest of the story is as this one. So there was no need to correct the woman. Even for this story, perhaps we should be looking at our own faults rather than trying to correct others.

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    • Yes Dom, but tell us about Muhammad. Was he more important than Jesus Christ, whom the bible overtly refers to as the Creator of Heavens and Earth.

      Enoch Powell might have been rhetorically dialectically incompetent, even confused, but he seems to have been concerned with conflict resolution. You criticize this Monk – who may or may not be an actual figure from history. And it is your ‘god given’ right to criticize if you believe in it.

      Now, plainly explain if you think Muhammad accurately represented the Creator of Heavens and Earth.

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      • thanks Strewth,
        I think Solzhenitsyn went back to Russia because of the intellectual vacuity of the West.
        “the bait comment” is a beautiful example of what was anticipated. A perfectly vacuous ad hominem attack.

        in connection with 60 million of his countrymen dead
        ” if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.”

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      • Here, ad hominem passes for dialogue? And you expect me to embrace “islam”? dissemblers? taqiyya?

        Jesus or bust. Western Civilization is on this remarkable cusp of judgment being played out in Europe, North American, Australia, NewZealand..

        Strewth grins and winks at his taqiyya mate?

        This is neither a discussion forum about Christianity, Islam nor even secularism but a clearing house for teenage utopian garlanded day dreams.

        Forgiveness.

        I’m not a sad little man, but I do seriously wonder at how Lot, Noah, Jeremiah, felt. Jesus said in black and white, “it will be worse……”

        Who cares; I have? I have two children on school holidays, one doing trumpet, one violin and cello, we do scouts, bike riding, camping, caving, abseiling, bay swimming, archery, saw Everest last night, camping in Ballarat next weekend, did Kryal Castle last holidays, sailing next term, Victorian Institute of Sport if we can fit it in this week.

        I DON’T HAVE TIME TO BE A SAD LITTLE MAN.

        but what I despair about is this> a generation having neglected so great a salvation as that on offer. You think you found Christianity?
        we all sang kumbayah and all got emotionally high?

        Bryan,,,,,,,,,,,,,, A million people homeless in Chile post their earthquake might be reassessing their mortality and life’s priorities.

        The west still sucks on the teat of prosperity and decadence saying this ship won’t sink, we have “science”.

        You believe you have a better insight for building community than Edward Coke or William Shakespeare’s generation of four hundred odd years ago?

        Bryan, Vox Day/ aka Theodore Beale, may be pithy man with some simply wrong theories on ‘race’ but he has a useful running commentary on cultural wars/
        His book “SJW’s always lie” is another book in a long list I won’t read because I simply don’t have the time. but you might like to hate it? I think at the core of it is the notion that this generation is living a self delusional lie. living a lie means telling them.

        I thought on previous occasions I’d be signing off. Time, like the coming blood moon event, might be so very close to ‘over’
        God bless you.

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      • “I DON’T HAVE TIME TO BE A SAD LITTLE MAN.”

        No, but you seem to have time to be a VERY angry self righteous one PG.

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      • oh, michael, what a complex argument. POE’s LAW, and I had to revisit it lately, is that parody is indistinguishable from what social justice warriors are actually saying.
        I’m not angry. Solzhenitsyn wasn’t angry in a gulag. Jeremiah wasn’t angry with the Assyrians or Babylonians/ Persians. Passionate anyone? Does anyone give a flying Laughing out Loud?

        There are no conservative Christians. They’re all busy sewing diversity badges on to shiny ironed uniforms.

        Christians are homophobic, xenophobic, intolerant and gays thrown off buildings in Iraq has simply nothing at all, even obtusely, to do with muhammad. POE’s LAW. It’s all white men fault. POE’s LAW: no WASP’s allowed on the Supreme Court of America because it’s diverse. Parody can’t keep up with reality. Forgiven is throwing some man made icons on a fire regardless of whether or not the person wants or seeks forgiveness? God bless you.

        And diversity and free speech are speakers being edited completely off the the page in the name of inclusiveness at the expense of Christian Heritage.

        Russia. Watch what Russia does with the West. ‘aint me defending the West.

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      • That would be observation, not argument.
        Try reading some good news stories – remarkable therapy for high blood pressure…….and doomsday prophecy syndrome.

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  3. Forgiveness is thru Jesus’ one atoning sacrifice……….

    and unto those who have utterly rejected it and squandered their one and only life’s opportunity:-

    check this out:

    what Putin just said:

    “Addressing the Russian top brass on Wednesday, Vladimir Putin lambasted U.S. Middle-East policy for being ‘disastrous’ as Saudi-backed rebels vowed to purge Syria and Iraq from Christians and other ethnic and religious minorities.
    “We have nearly two million orthodox Christians in the Levant—Syria and Lebanon— and approximately 5 million Christians across Middle-East. Regardless of America’s presidential election outcome, White House craves chaos in that oil-rich region by supporting fanatic Islamist organizations, i.e. ISIS and al-Nusra Front,” Moskovskaya Pravda cited the Russian president as saying.

    It is morally incumbent upon Russia to change this terrible status quo in the Middle-East, added Mr.Putin , prepare for operation ‘Salvation’ and with God almighty’s aid , we shall cleanse Syria from Obama’s ruthless terrorists.”

    unquote: the Day of God’s wrath is also a reality and as real as gravity and car crashes and train wrecks. All human righteousness can’t add five seconds to any human’s life.

    This is all about Jesus.

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  4. PG, you’ll be camping in Ballarat next weekend? Might be at Pax Hill, or Sovereign Hill? Perhaps we could meet for a coffee. Bryan could give you my email address.

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    • Sure, Beechworth Bakery, 1 pm, Monday? tell Dom he’s welcome as well. The bank vault bit, table under the north facing window looking out at the Pancake parlour, infront of the the Encyclopedia Britannica shelves and the little fake coal fire with the beaten copper surround? It’s only a five minute walk from the Art Gallery. The bakery does bottomless cup coffee. But don’t order the custard tarts, they use powdered custard mix, which should have been banned by the Geneva convention. God wiling of course. Friday is Yom Kippur – and the earth tottering like a drunkard. Something unprecedented is happening beneath Chile, as with the NewMadrid fracture. plant the vegie garden but look up.

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