Who Are the Victims of the Charleston Shooting?


17 thoughts on “Who Are the Victims of the Charleston Shooting?

  1. I don’t watch tv and I don’t read the new much. I did not know this happened until 2 days after and it was from a Jon Stewart link rather than the news. I am not sure about the TV but on the internet; home grown violence done by born and bred citizens seems to have a lot less coverage.

    I think Jon Stewart is fed up with the violence in the US. He was not his normal self.



    • Having just watched the second (longer) video of Jon Stewart’s in the link posted by Dom, I wonder if this anti-black attitude that seems so prevalent in the U.S.A. would be affected by the following.

      “At that time also there appeared a certain man of magic power … if it be meet to call him a man, [whose name is Jesus], whom [certain] Greeks call a son of [a] God, but his disciples [call] the true prophet who is supposed to have raised dead persons and to have cured all diseases. Both his nature and his form were human, for he was a man of simple appearance, mature age, black-skinned (melagchrous), short growth, three cubits tall, hunchbacked, prognathous (lit. ‘with a long face [macroprosopos]), a long nose, eyebrows meeting above the nose, that the spectators could take fright, with scanty [curly] hair, but having a line in the middle of the head after the fashion of the Nazaraeans, with an undeveloped beard. (*Halōsis, ii.174).”[4]



  2. what our country is made of………………..hmmmmmm
    and act of righteous indignation in the face of injustice …………………hmmmmmmmmmm.

    What is a country made of ?
    dirt, geography,, hills, rivers, sky.

    Not sure what he meant Bryan but I for one have never thought of going to church as an act of righteous indignation in the face of injustice. It’s never occurred to me to go to church for righteous indignation. Thanks for pointing this out.

    I’m a sinner and go to church to celebrate God’s forgiveness through His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, and His grace to sinners like me. People who deserve death for having failed their Creator.

    What’s Australia made of………..

    my guess is sinner who need Jesus more than anything else. Correct me if I’m wrong.


      • john christian graas ?? anyone, 33 year old Child Actor and Marine.

        something really spooky about that prayer. Sandy Hook, Lee Harvey Oswald type spooky. Born in Kenya type spooky. Like it was from a poorly written thinly veiled b grade movies script. Anyway, its over soon.


      • The social justice warrior thing goes, “they’re black, they must have suffered prejudice, his anger must be righteous, we support them.” Trouble is Vengeance belongs to God. He owns it. Until the very second hand strikes midnight, Jesus’ words about forgiveness, 7 times 70 seem, the way to go.
        This man John or whoever, might have just been a nut on anti depressive meds, or maybe he’s something different? Something worse.

        The only thing I really got that lasted was that other warning, Judgment begins at the house of God. It ties in with the Christchurch, N.Z. earthquakes x 2. Home churches and a woman fleeing to the wilderness.

        Anyway its all hip here, nation of Islam, black panthers, one fist salutes. Is that the same nation he’s alluding to? A nation burning within with righteous indignation = indigo nation, deoxygenated mucous membranes, stiff necks?


      • Sounds like a passive/aggressive racist in our midst. I guess Phil would have been happier if he was white.
        You can’t help revealing yourself can you Phil?
        Hopefully the earthquakes are in you heart


      • correct Bryan, I say, x, which, regardless of the content means, racist, bigot, white supremacist. White supremacists under the bed even. And when you say, sounds like, that means, is. These you-win-by-default-arguments are quite clever. Like a car air bag that goes off every time the key is in the ignition; even without any hint of a collision. Very safe cars never leave the garage. Drivers with a perfect driving record, never lose points, never get behind the wheel.

        NORAD are moving to the Cheyenne Mountains. There’s no meaning there. None at all. It’s just something they do every once in a while to avoid being perceived as things they aren’t. Putting bunkers in mountains is just a PR stunt when you expect perfect peace to break out any minute now. thanks. I mean that. People who go to church to get their dose of righteous indignation. Wouldn’t have squandered the chance.


      • you know what’s wrong with that picture. It’s a white man wearing a white t shirt with a white billboard. What is he? That’s right. all together now, he’s a racist. Why because of who he is.
        Other groups can’t be racist, why? because they aren’t capable of it. See, its scientific. yeah, I laughed.. But only to myself because public laughter is, all together now, racist. full marks class. back slaps, and high fives all around.


      • hey, you know this can’t possibly be right, right?
        because if this were true, you would have heard it from someone reliable? right?


    • PG, you are not sure what he meant. Firstly, only the physical part of the country is made of dirt, geography, hills, rivers, sky. Plus the objects humans have added.

      The country also has a collective personality, a psyche, a soul, a character, of its people.

      Remember too the act of righteous indignation in the face of injustice, wrought by Jesus ( alone or with followers) amongst the money changers in the temple.


      • That’s right Strewth, and how better to express that righteous indignation than to gather together in a church building, or wherever, and seek God’s face, praying as one body of believers. We Christians should feel as Christ does towards sin…..with righteous anger, ie., the sin we commit ourselves. If we truly felt that way about sin, we’d stop sinning!


    • There can be pride in proclaiming oneself a sinner. Pride in the role of a sinner who has found salvation. Not to be confused with gratitude.


  3. Only in America. One commentator places the violence in the US on the shoulders of fear. Working through US media and entertainment one sees all the fear being pushed.


  4. Skin color really is only skin deep. Most traits are inherited independently from one another. The genes influencing skin color have nothing to do with the genes influencing hair form, eye shape, blood type, musical talent, athletic ability or forms of intelligence. Knowing someone’s skin color doesn’t necessarily tell you anything else about him or her. So why did this man kill these people?

    In the animal world different characteristics can be bred into or out of certain groups . Other characteristics remain a mix. The environment also plays its part on animal, and also human, differences. There can be huge differences in the traits of people of like skin colour, more than where skin colour differs. In dark skinned people in Africa a recent study found 30 million genetic variants in the seven sequenced populations.

    Of course race exists, and this was a racist shooting based, I suppose, on a false concept – skin colour. This idea has been used to create social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy the inequalities.



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