Nice guys really do finish last, says study

Food for thought – Does it pay, at least in worldly terms, to be a jerk?
At the University of Amsterdam, researchers have reportedly found that semi-obnoxious behavior not only can make a person seem more powerful, but can make them more powerful. The same goes for overconfidence. Act like you’re the smartest person in the room, a series of striking studies demonstrates, and you’ll up your chances of running the show. People will even pay to be treated shabbily: snobbish, condescending salespeople at luxury retailers extract more money from shoppers than their more agreeable counterparts do. And “agreeableness,” other research shows, is a trait that tends to make you poorer.


17 thoughts on “Nice guys really do finish last, says study

  1. Unfortunately, I believe this is the truth. People take advantage of those who will object the least. So if you’re the ‘nice guy’, you will be taken advantage of. The people who complain and conduct themselves aggressively with an air of expectation seem to be the winners. That’s life for people who believe that ‘success’ is based on money, power and position in ‘society’.
    Luckily there are better things to aspire to than wealth and power.
    After all, we’ll all end up the same way, and it won’t matter whether we were rich or powerful. I’d rather be remembered as kind and thoughtful to my friends, colleagues and family, and even to strangers, than rich and powerful and pushing people out of my way on my journey to ‘the top’.


  2. Success that is to do with achievement is hollow. What’s important is not what you have, or what you do, or what you pretend, or how intelligent you are, or who you’re related to, or whose name you can drop, and so on.

    We do need to be successful at some sort of aim in life, like keeping a roof over your head, or doing a job well, or providing pleasant company, and such things. But our capabilities can be limited beyond our control, and even if we can’t be successful there, it makes us no less a person.

    It’s not what we achieve that matters then, but what we are at heart. And it’s difficult to know what that is, with so much pretense covering it up, pretense we’ve come to believe..


  3. Last? Yes, it depends on what one sees as last. Lots of ways to be successful. Happy marriage, good relationships, love my job, roof over head, food and i get to help others. Plus knowing a God who loves us all. I am pretty successful.


  4. someone you’d have sworn you were quoting Dom said, “the first shall be last and the last shall be first.”

    with the war on Christmas though any references to Jesus, Holy Christ are bound to be controversial; even hate speech,

    so ban ex gays and steal all microphones.

    Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last.” So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen. Gospel of Matthew

    a Jew quoting a Jew. after two thousand years who would have thought it possible!


  5. U R Soooooooooooooooooh inclusive.
    watching a movie called “into great silence” about an 800 year old monastery which just happens to span the life of this man
    “About the time of the end, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the Prophecies, and insist upon their literal interpretation, in the midst of much clamor and opposition.”

    Sir Issac Newton 1642-1727

    hate speech, I know, I get it, the morally secured in all the high places. don’t post it, it could be against one man’s well developed sense of religion. which must be hate speech.


  6. A little off-topic, but only a little, perhaps. I’ve just watched a video, an interview with Carl Jung.
    He uses an analogy of nature instilling a liking in us for things that are important to our being, such as salt, but could just as well be good food, fresh air, etc. He says if so many people all over the world like to believe in an after-life, it is reasonable to think that belief is important to our being.


    • The same thought did occur to me, Bubba! Nevertheless, although McDonalds burgers are far from good natural food, they do contain some elements of it. Eating one could save a starving person’s life, perhaps?

      In the same way, perhaps a faith that is recognised by most to be a bit dodgy, might be better than none at all.


      • good thought Strewth.

        Perhaps the Evangelical Christian answer to that would be simply that if a person is kept alive for even a little bit longer by some junk food, he may just happen to get the opportunity to eat better food next time.

        Similarly he would say, well, though the ‘dodgy’ faith might not be any use for Salvation in itself, at least the person is perhaps moving just a little bit closer to the necessary truths. Even through the dodgy faith, the essential bits of Scripture may be heard or read and inwardly digested for future nourishment.

        Of course, to a dissenter like myself, any sort of a faith carries its distinctive blessings, and is better than none at all. Much more I could say there, but I wont bother.
        Cheers, Rian.


      • What about the person who’s killed a little bit earlier by some junk food ? Or cigiges or similar ?

        As to the dodgy faith what if it just leads the follower into a market place with a back-pack full of explosives ?


      • Hey Strewth

        But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
        Carl Sagan


  7. I find it difficult to know where last might be? Last in what. So many elements in life that is seems difficult to define “last”. As well, whatever placing that is, it might become the premium position in certain situations.

    Best to just live. helping others, being courteous comes naturally if you put yourself in the place of the person who you think is doing you wrong. Never be a victim, no matter how downtrodden or inferior others may see you. The problem is theirs not yours.

    The Great Way is not difficult for those who have no preferences. —– Sengstan Third Zen Patriarch


  8. Ecclesiastes shows what people in this world (under the sun) often strive for, wanting to be first in those fields. It then says all this is of no value, meaningless, when you look at life from a spiritual viewpoint. The opposite then becomes the premium position.

    I think Solomon (if he did write it) might have been on a similar track to Sengstan?


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