Pope Francis: ‘All I want is to go out for a pizza!’


Pope Francis has given a lengthy — and fascinating — interview to a Mexican television station, to mark the second anniversary of his election.

Speaking to the program “Noticieros Televisa,” Francis displays his usual candor, dishing details about the secret conclave that elected him, talking about how he senses his papacy will be short, how the church must get tough on sexual abuse, and how all he really wants “is to go out one day, without being recognized, and go to a pizzeria for a pizza.”

Here are some of the highlights based on Vatican Radio’s English translation and the original Spanish:

On whether he likes being pope:

“I do not mind!”

On what he does not like about being pope:

“The only thing I would like is to go out one day, without being recognized, and go to a pizzeria for a pizza. … In Buenos Aires, I was a rover. I moved between parishes and certainly this habit has changed. … It has been hard work to change. But you get used to it. You find a way to get around: on the phone, or in other ways.”

On how long he thinks he will be pope:

“I have the feeling that my pontificate will be brief: four or five years; I do not know, even two or three. Two have already passed. It is a somewhat vague sensation. Maybe it’s like the psychology of the gambler who convinces himself he will lose so he won’t be disappointed, and if he wins, is happy. I do not know. But I feel that the Lord has placed me here for a short time, and nothing more. … But it is a feeling. That’s why I always leave the possibility open.”

On criticisms that he talks too much, and too spontaneously:

“I talk the way I talk, like a parish priest, because I like to talk that way. I’ve always spoken that way. Always. For some it’s a defect, I don’t know. But I think the people understand me.”

On how voting works in the conclave:

“The phenomenon of a conclave vote is interesting. There are very strong candidates. But many people do not know who to vote for. So six, seven, names are chosen that are a kind of depository, while people wait to see who to definitively vote for. This is how people vote when the group is large. I was not the recipient of definitive votes, but provisional ones, yes.”

On his surprise in being chosen on the second afternoon of voting:

“Something happened, I do not know what. In the room I saw some strange signs, but … they asked me about my health … and stuff. And when we came back in the afternoon (after lunch) the cake was already in the oven. In two votes it was all over. It was a surprise even for me.”

On whether popes should retire at 80, as cardinals are required to do:

“I do not really like the idea of ​​an age limit. Because I believe that the papacy is a kind of last instance. It is a special grace. For some theologians the papacy is a sacrament. … I do not think so, but I want to say that it is something special. To say that one is in charge up to 80 years, creates a sensation that the pontificate is at it’s end and that would not be a good thing. Predictability.”

On preventing sexual abuse by clergy:

“Just one priest abusing a child is enough to move all of the structures of the church to confront the problem. Why? Because a priest has the obligation to help a child grow, in sanctity and in his or her encounter with Jesus. Whoever abuses destroys the encounter with Jesus. One must listen to those who have been abused. And I have listened to them here. … The interior destruction they have suffered. They (the abusers) are cannibals. In other words, it’s as if they have eaten these children up. They destroy them, no? Even if it’s just one case, it’s enough for us to be ashamed and to do all that we can do. In this, we must go forward, we cannot take even one step back. To destroy a child is horrible; it’s horrible.”



8 thoughts on “Pope Francis: ‘All I want is to go out for a pizza!’

  1. Thought for the day:-
    It’s not that other animals can’t think abstractly; it’s just that they saw it as pointless.


  2. To destroy a child is horrible, gotta agree with him there. But what about the Church using it’s resources and the legal system to then destroy the adult who finally makes a complaint about their abuse as a child? What’s his opinion there and more importantly what’s he going to to to stop it occurring?


    • Probably nothing. Chances are that the feeling he’s got about the shortness of his pontificate is based on the fact that he could be deposed by the Vatican if he rocks the boat too much.


      • Flippin heck I’m agreeing with you !! That’s a turn up for the books.

        I’d say at the end of the day Pope Francis will be remembered for some very nice words and very, very little change in the way the Church operates.


      • Case in point his church turing the sprinklers on the homeless.

        Wonder what strong action the pope took there ?


      • Case in point. Church apologises.


        The archdiocese noted that it is “the largest supporter of services for the homeless in San Francisco,” and that St. Mary’s Cathedral “does more than any other Catholic church.”
        “We are sorry that our intentions have been misunderstood and recognize that the method used was ill-­conceived. It actually has had the opposite effect from what it was intended to do, and for this we are very sorry,” the church said.


      • Woo hoo, they apologised how very noble. After running the sprinkler system for a couple of years they apologised after a massive public backlash. Excuse me if I’m not performing cartwheels in the street to celebrate.

        And the ol pope who has made such positive comments about the homeless and poverty. What did he do? Excommunicate the bishop and turf him out ? Nah all mouth and no trousers.


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