The man who wouldn’t be king

cromwell

On this date in 1658, Oliver Cromwell, the notorious Puritan ruler — or great man of history and defender of liberty, depending on your views — died of natural causes. Which is not how many of his opponents died. Cromwell was about as brutal then as the Islamic State is today, especially if you were Catholic, and Irish. But that was then. Also worth noting: when the Royalists returned to power in 1660 they had his corpse dug up, hung in chains, and beheaded.

Cromwell is one of the most controversial figures in the history of the British Isles, considered a regicidal dictator by historians such as David Hume] a military dictator by Winston Churchill, but a hero of liberty by Thomas Carlyle and Samuel Rawson Gardiner, and a class revolutionary by Leon Trotsky.

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21 thoughts on “The man who wouldn’t be king

  1. the Royalists returned to power in 1660 “THEY HAD ” his corpse dug up, hung in chains, and beheaded.
    Note !!
    Horrid acts are done by those willing to please one they “BELIEVE ” in .
    Funny how people hold royalty to high acclaim yet judge Hitler differently .
    But that,s what you get with propaganda !

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    • Yes the recording of history is selective. An amazing fact is there are only 22 countries in the world that UK has not invaded. Iran has not invaded any country in the last 270 years.

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    • I was just pointing out that people managed to dig up a two year old corpse .
      Just imagine how gross that would have looked .
      Then to mutilate it then place in public display .
      Forgoing morality !!
      Just to please one they “BELIEVED ” in

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  2. He certainly had faults, but I believe truly acted for what he believed was the best. But did Hitler also believe he himself acted for the best?

    Cromwell gave orders that civilians were not to be killed, so despite his hatred of Irish Catholics he wasn’t attempting ethnic cleansing. Also unlike Hitler, his military dictatorship was the fore-runner of a society more temperate than his own times or the preceding.

    Germany’s advance into a ‘better’ society was more owing to a recognition that war reparations didn’t work, than any influence of Hitler,

    Just thinking. As always, could be wrong!

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    • but “I believe” truly acted for what “”He Believed” was the best.
      But “Did” Hitler also believe he himself acted for the best?

      Aaah the magical wand pushing aside all horrid acts :- BELIEVE .
      Strewth it is the masses that do such horrid things not a single person .
      When a single person does those acts themselves we call them deranged,insane,barbarian and many many more words .
      Those people are locked up hopefully for a long time .
      But those believing in a person do those same acts .
      Be it any tyrant in history usually royalty [mafia of that time] or some religion .
      As long as those “BELIEVE ” is placed on the table of history “A TRUMP CARD “

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  3. bryanpattersonfaithworks
    on September 11, 2014 at 08:38 said:
    And you are a :”believer” too AT.

    I have “NEVER” tasted beer ,tea,
    I have “NEVER” willingly inhaled smoke from anything burning.
    I have NEVER been to any races .
    I have NEVER placed a bet on any table or in slot machine.
    I have NEVER been to a strip club.
    I have NEVER been in a brothel.
    I have NEVER injected illegal drugs,

    I get my entertainment watching “FOOLS”

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  4. I am not the one claiming to know .
    I have nothing to follow.
    I did not exist [with no problem but that could have been a illusion]
    Apparently I do exist [ but this could possibly be a illusion ]
    As for what could come next ??
    ?????
    Only fools would dare make any claim to know
    P.S
    How is the tally of percentage of your posts going that relate to Atheists ??

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  5. bryanpattersonfaithworks
    on September 13, 2014 at 15:22 said:
    And you “believe” you are right. So you are as much a believer as me AT. face it mate!
    Great incursion of a flawed claim and flawed verdict from the faulty data you “BELIEVE ”
    I have highlighted my view of what I perceive is based upon faulty data.
    Any claim as to knowing any truth would place me in the category of fools .
    A category that is well overflowing .

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    • MMM
      So Bryan ??
      What within that position of doubt about all that I perceive could be classified as “BELIEF ”
      And that is just in this universe !
      Not looking at this universe .

      How could doubt in the ability to perceive be called “BELIEF “?
      And are you claiming your perception is perfect even though any good magician can fool you ?

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