It depends on how you look at it

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Posted on January 14, 2014 by bryanpattersonfaithworks

43 thoughts on “It depends on how you look at it”

Kathleen on January 14, 2014 at 12:52 said:

Very clever, but now atheists are going to think we Christians have the upside down view.

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- Bubba Ray on January 14, 2014 at 20:40 said:
  
  Nah I’m just thinking that Bryan doesn’t know many atheists.
  
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 14, 2014 at 20:41 said:
    
    Well you’re quite wrong there.
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 15, 2014 at 08:22 said:
    
    Wrong fair enough it happens to the best of us. So out of all the atheists you know who told you that was their philosophy ?
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 15, 2014 at 10:36 said:
    
    I don’t get what your question is Bubba.
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 19, 2014 at 20:35 said:
    
    Hi Bryan
    
    Well for a start how can I (being an atheist) be ignorant of what an atheist’s view on life is ? Because I haven’t met YOUR reading criteria, that’s absurd.
    
    My initial question was “So out of all the atheists you know who told you that as their philosophy ?” No offence but you’ve done nothing to address that.
    
    Honestly from my point of view you just seem to have done your very best to confuse the issue.
    
    And yeah I don’t speak for all atheists. But why on earth would I believe that the 6 guys you named DO speak for all atheists? Why would you for that matter ?
    
    Looks like I missed another memo 🙂
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 20, 2014 at 09:31 said:
    
    Bubba I honestly don’t believe you’re as thick as you pretend to be. Your argument is just going around in circles.
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 20, 2014 at 07:22 said:
    
    OK I don’t speak all atheists.
    
    But apparently you do.
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 20, 2014 at 09:31 said:
    
    Nope.
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 20, 2014 at 20:14 said:
    
    OK yah got me. I’ll give in
    
    How about I further amend my sneaky ol suspicion to one that the “atheists view on life” was generated without any input from any actual atheists. I’d say it’s more like “what a Christian thinks an atheists view on life is” – based on some books he’s read. And oh gee my what a lot of books how very smart and learned he must be know wonder he knows so much more than an ignorant atheist like me.
    
    You might want to revisit your topic on humility. Might do you good.
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 21, 2014 at 00:06 said:
    
    You keep amending to a ridiculous point. And why should anyone bother to read books? You obviously know better without all that book learnin’ Bubba.
    
    Hell yeah!!!
    
    Yee Hah!
    
    I think that Queensland sun’s getting to you again.
    
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- Bubba Ray on January 16, 2014 at 21:00 said:
  
  Well I got a sneaky ol suspicion that the “atheists view on life” was generated without any input from any actual atheists. I’d say it’s more like “what a Christian thinks an atheists view on life is”
  
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 16, 2014 at 21:37 said:
    
    I talk to atheists quite a lot and most are pretty open about what they believe, God bless ’em.
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 17, 2014 at 07:28 said:
    
    Ditto and I’ve never heard anything like that creed above from any one of em.
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 17, 2014 at 08:18 said:
    
    You’ve never read Christopher Hitchens or Richard Dawkins?
    Or Kafka, Gorky, Bertrand Russell, George Eliot?
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 17, 2014 at 19:07 said:
    
    I still got a sneaky ol suspicion that the “atheists view on life” was generated without any input from any actual atheists. I’d say it’s more like “what a Christian thinks an atheists view on life is”
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 17, 2014 at 20:08 said:
    
    OK believe what you want Bubba. Have you read any books by the atheists I suggested? You might change your mind if you bother to read what they say.
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 17, 2014 at 20:20 said:
    
    Yep without evidence to the contrary my beliefs rarely change.
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 17, 2014 at 21:04 said:
    
    Ah but you have to examine the evidence, not ignore it. Same for all of us of course
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 19, 2014 at 10:07 said:
    
    I might just amend my sneaky ol suspicion to one that the “atheists view on life” was generated without any input from any actual atheists. I’d say it’s more like “what a Christian thinks an atheists view on life is” – based on some books he’s read.
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 19, 2014 at 10:48 said:
    
    And how’s your reading going Bubba? Will you bother to educate yourself a bit further than the knee-jerk?
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 19, 2014 at 11:46 said:
    
    I already know what I believe about atheism why do I need to read up on it ?
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 19, 2014 at 15:17 said:
    
    Well, you don’t talk for all atheists.. After all you posed the question in the first place and I pointed you in the direction I thought would clearly answer your question. But if you don’t wish to…stay ignorant. Why cares?
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 23, 2014 at 19:31 said:
    
    Funny in all that reading you’ve done you never came across the suggestion that you should remove the log in your own eye first.
    
    Is it really that remarkable a suggestion to you that if you want to know what an atheist thinks you could actually talk to one and ask them ?
    
    Rather than read a few books then dictate to them what they think.
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 23, 2014 at 21:32 said:
    
    I probably talk to more atheists on a day to day basis than you do Bubba. I also read books. You should try that yourself some time. Might help
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 25, 2014 at 13:30 said:
    
    “I probably talk to more atheists on a day to day basis than you do ”
    
    Right so when I asked ” So out of all the atheists you know who told you that was their philosophy ” you couldn’t name a single one.
    
    But considering the nature of our conversation to date I have no doubt you TALK to plenty of atheists.
    
    I have strong doubts that you LISTEN to any of em.
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 25, 2014 at 23:52 said:
    
    Ok, believe what you want.
    
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  - Bubba Ray on January 26, 2014 at 08:48 said:
    
    Well as I said before “Yep without evidence to the contrary my beliefs rarely change. ”
    
    Happy to say it again as it seems you weren’t listening the first time.
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on January 26, 2014 at 18:55 said:
    
    Ok whatever.
    
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  - Bubba Ray on February 1, 2014 at 17:24 said:
    
    Looks like those listening skills are still a work in progress.
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on February 2, 2014 at 11:31 said:
    
    Are you looking in the mirror again mate?
    
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  - Bubba Ray on February 4, 2014 at 20:43 said:
    
    Nope I’m keen to listen. That’s why I ask question, I’m interested in understanding your view on things.
    
    I am curious though why run such a blog if you don’t want to listen to other people’s opinions ?
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on February 4, 2014 at 22:26 said:
    
    I’ve been running this blog for years. I like the discussion, just not the people who don’t really want to discuss but are just here to put down believers in a loving God and have made up their minds that such a thing doesn’t exist. I don’t know why you’re here. Can you tell me why? Are you just here to express your non belief or something else?
    
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  - Bubba Ray on February 5, 2014 at 10:57 said:
    
    “I don’t know why you’re here. Can you tell me why?”
    
    You know this is the first time I can recall that you’ve asked or even given the slightest indication that you’d like my view on something. (OR that you’re honestly willing to listen to any view other than your own, or at least that’s how I see it).
    
    Why would I want to put down believers in a loving God ? Does that really make much sense to you ?
    
    However when you tell me what atheists think, or what their view on life is. AND I find that view inaccurate then I might have a couple of things to say.
    
    I might read some books by apologists etc and based on that then tell you how you see the world. IF you find what I’m saying inaccurate I’d bet you’d tell me. And hopefully I’d listen. Hopefully I’d be asking questions like “well what would you change”, “what’s your view on life”. “how do you think I’ve got it wrong”. What I hope I wouldn’t be doing is belittling and dismissing your opinion.
    
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  - bryanpattersonfaithworks on February 5, 2014 at 11:36 said:
    
    Fair enough. But I don’t think you answered the question
    
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  - Bubba Ray on February 5, 2014 at 13:17 said:
    
    Learning and personal development
    
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dabbles on January 14, 2014 at 14:11 said:

That’s clever,
And, in general, almost accurate…from the christian perspective (ie ‘arse up):-
“It is ridiculous to think.
Everything is fine but with god.”

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dabbles on January 14, 2014 at 14:15 said:

…and here’s another comment on how the real and rational and the etheral, unfathonable intangible can mysteriously interact! (a basis for next weeks sermon?)
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- God on January 15, 2014 at 07:39 said:
  
  oops.
  
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  - God on January 15, 2014 at 07:42 said:
    
    ps….http://9gag.com/gag/aPvZAVP
    
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- Strewth on January 16, 2014 at 19:41 said:
  
  Dabbles, how long since you checked your email?
  
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  - dabbles on January 16, 2014 at 21:57 said:
    
    Hi Strewth.
    Check it often, though it’s become a bit of a shambles lately, because I’m flat out with a lot of other stuff.
    I get ONE letter from Ballarat (still unanswered), and several from the other end of the world…..and have not received more than a couple from a friend at Cape Patterson, so it’d seem my system is falling apart. (XP, no longer supported, and Google playing funny-buggers trying to force everybody into becoming a subscriber.
    
    But you know the old saying: if at first you don’t succeed….
    (get a bigger hammer! 🙂 )
    
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  - Strewth on January 18, 2014 at 05:04 said:
    
    🙂
    
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